Woodturning and podcasting with Donny Carter

This week we are joined by an awesome woodturner Donny Carter.  Not only do we get into the best way someone can get into wood turning but we also chat about Donny's excellent podcast The Green Woodworker!  Find out how the show started as well as some of Donny's favorite episodes!

Transcript

Brandon: We want to welcome you guys back to the Make or Break Show. We're hanging out with a fellow podcaster... Mr. Donny Carter calling in from Ocean Springs Mississippi. So we were just talking about we're actually from the same state which you normally don't see Mississippi wise. So we are super have you on you doing amazing podcast the Green Woodworkers podcast. When did you start that? How long have you been doing that?

Donny: I just recorded episode 29 which will be out this week. So 29 weeks ago.

Donny: Actually had it in my head about two years ago.

Brandon: Yeah.

Brandon: And was just kind of nervous and scared to get it started. But first of all thanks, thanks Brandon for asking me to be on your podcast man and I'm excited to see another woodworking or wood"esk" podcast going on and I appreciate you asking me to be on man. Thank you.

Brandon: Yeah I've done some other podcasts in the past and it's always fun talking to other podcasters because you have a really unique perspective because you talk to so many different people. And so not only are you able to share what you've learned but also which you are from others so looking forward to diving into some of the awesome people you've had.

Donny: Yeh.

Well just start off I was going to your website and I noticed you had the wife and the husband from Up... the picture and then I also saw you get super excited about it... was it a wood-turned Woody? That Carl Jacbonson had sent you?

Donny: Yes.

Brandon: Where did the Up come from?

Donny: Well Up is from... the movie Up is my wife's favorite movie is actually a good little movie. It really is it's you know it's a cartoon type.

Donny: I forgot. I can't even think of the name of the word.

Donny: You know but it's it's a really cute movie.

Donny: And she gets super excited about it. And she also doesn't really care to have her face on social media much. She doesn't she doesn't do for Facebook and things like that so I decided you know what... I'll put the picture of the husband and wife from Up on there and boom there you go that will be my my thing. Because she doesn't like being on you know having her face plastered everywhere like like I do you know me I'm trying to be everywhere.

Donny: But yeah that's where the the Up reference came from and then the Woody. The Woody is actually I won that in an auction. Last year Steve Twydell from... what is Steve's channel?

Donny: He's on YouTube. And he did a he runs a charity for makers and stuff. He doesn't run a charity for makers. He runs a charity for for children over in the UK. And last year was the first year where he got makers to make a whole bunch of items and then they'll auction the items off and he gives all the money to charity. I believe he actually works with special needs children and things like that. So when I saw Carol making this I wanted to know who was going to make what to begin with and then when my friend Carl Jacobson who is is the most you know one of the most incredible woodturners out there when he said that he was going to make Woody I told him I said no matter what no matter it doesn't matter I'm going to end up with that Woody doll.

Donny: And the day of the auction they were so inundated with people on the auction it kept shutting the site down.

Brandon: Oh wow.

And I put a big bid up I just went ahead and put a big bid up. Well it just so happens that after that nobody else it was just nobody could bid. It was just insane. So anyway I ended up with the Woody doll and he probably sits up on the on the TV stand there and I have also another few things from Carl. You know I collect stuff from other other woodturners and makers and things like that. So that's where that came from. I love owning pieces from other people and there are some incredibly talented people out there.

Donny: I have a bowl turn from Carl I have several mallet's from people. I guess I kind of collect mallet's now. I inadvertently just started you know people sending them to me and things like that. And so I love collecting things from other other makers. It's awesome.

Brandon: Got it. That's really cool. Well I'ld love to kind of get into your background with making. When you were growing up were you kind of the kid always building stuff, breaking stuff. Was that kind kind of your history going up?

Donny: Yeah it actually was. I grew up in a huge family of one of eight kids.

Brandon: Oh wow.

Donny: And yeah. [00:04:53] And we lived in the housing authority area if you will growing up and you know so there was a lot of kids in the neighborhood and bicycles and skateboards and all those kind of things. So we would take whatever we had and you know money was definitely an issue so we would build pretty much whatever whatever we needed. So if we wanted a bike or something we would take several old bikes from different places and junk piles and things like that and and build stuff and put things together.

Donny: And I remember one time...

Donny: And a lot of things we probably acquired let me say or acquired in ways that we probably shouldn't have. So we would kind of have to you know I guess kind of like we had us like our own little bicycle chop shop if you will we will. Disassemble these things and kind of reassemble them on frames and paint them and stuff like that to make bicycles that were not as recognizable by the authorities or the people that owned them and things.

Donny: I mean I'm talking I was you know 11, 12 years old doing this kind of stuff. And to make it worse my father was a police officer and [73.3] he said that that just made it worse for the whole the whole area.

Donny: But yeah we always were always making something building something you know clubhouses in the woods and just always doing something to make something and stay busy it was ever since I can remember being a kid.

Brandon: That's cool. What did you go to school for or kind of what was your first career once you got through high school.

Donny: Well let me tell you my first my first ever experience with the real like woodworking or construction or anything I think I was about 13 years old 14 years old and my first ever job all summer was to work for a man named Mr. Banks and he owned a construction company. And my job that summer was to pull nails out of boards and restack that lumber and of course to me to this day because I was so young I swore that pile of lumber was 100 feet tall and it was just this massive I don't know how many board feet of lumber but I swore that it was that it was more than you've ever seen at Home Depot or Lowes.

Donny: Now whether it was that much or not I don't know but I know that I spent several months knocking nails out of boards and stack-in those boards according to length and that was the first thing I ever did. And like I said he owned a construction company.

Donny: So for many summers after that I kind of just worked for him. Just picking up around the job sites and things like that. [00:07:42] And I just I love to see the process of things being built. I love new construction mainly. I love seeing a piece of dirt there and people build things with you know put the slab in and do the framing and that's probably why I've built a couple of my own houses and things like that. [19.5]

Donny: But as far as schooling or anything, man I was I was a horrible student in school only because I think how I grew up in the time I grew up I kind of had to maintain this persona of a person that I.. you know I kind of had to be a little tough guy in the area we grew up and things we did.

Donny: So school was not on the top priority for me so believe it or not I actually ended up quitting school right in the beginning of my 11th grade. I quit high school when I got a job at a grocery store or some other things and then ended up grabing in a job with a construction company doing some industrial construction and things like that.

Donny: And then I really got in the cars, got into automotive stuff with a couple of friends. And actually started working for Chrysler when I was 18 years old.

Brandon: Oh cool.

Donny: Like on a an apprenticeship type program and I worked for Chrysler for several a couple of different dealerships. But for a total of around almost 15 years I spent working on cars.

Donny: Now that whole entire time I always still loved making things out of wood and metal and you know if something needed to be built I wanted to build it even if it cost me $150 to build a $20 shelf I still wanted to build that shelf you know.

Donny: And so several times I collected tools and then had to sell tools and collected tools and had to sell tools just to maintain bills and things like that the adult stuff that you know that kind of sucks. Sometimes you do what you got to do.

Donny: Mainly I spent most of my life like I said beyond being a mechanic and then I got into doing some work at airport runways all over the country we would do runway maintenance we would do rubber removal and paint removal using these machines that a lot of them that I built for four companies. For the company that I work for.

Donny: Still during that time I just really started getting into woodworking more and more and more. And one day I was sitting around I'm trying to remember what actually made me think about it but I either saw a video or something where someone said you know check local see what's going on around you.

Donny: And I did. I decided to look for woodturning clubs and lo and behold there was a club that met 10 minutes from me once a month.

Donny: So I got in contact with those guys and I said you know what do I need to do or whatever. Like oh nothing just show up for the meeting. And this is what we do and things like that.

Donny: Well that was probably three years ago and now I've been so inundated in this club I mean it's I think I'm getting ready to take over the Web site because the president doesn't you know he does a lot of things.

Donny: I just I love woodturning. I love being in the club I love being around makers I hang around a guy almost every day. We build stuff and things like that.

Donny: So that's kind of a quick version of of where I am today as far as you know my woodworking and things like that a lot.

Donny: A lot of YouTube influence Carl Jacobson, Stuart Batty... man I know I'm going to forget a ton of names. I've been following Matt Cremona since day one. I've been one of Matt's supporters since day one. Mark Spagnolo of course. I mean come on the Wood Whisperer. I definitely remember his stuff.

Donny: And then of course Norm Abrams I grew up watching you know I grew up watching him on PBS. So I think that was probably one of my initial things was like man I want to be like this guy . I thought he just had this wonderful life or once a week or all he did was build some stuff.

Brandon: Yeah absolutely. So what was it about turning then. Where you looking specifically for wood turning?. Or was that kind of your closest wooding..making club to ya?

Donny: No it was woodturning. Like I said I really got hooked on Carl. I started watching a lot of Carl's stuff and I really got hooked on what he was doing so I started just looking up all the wood turners on YouTube. And once I really kind of I think what I really liked about it more than anything was the instant justification...

Donny: [00:12:35] You know the instant gratification. You know you you could take this soaking wet green piece of wood bring it in and trim it a little bit on a saw sometimes. Or just cut a slice off and... stick it on the lathe and. Within an hour man you've. You could actually take a finished product. A finished bowl all the way down. Within a couple of hours.

Donny: To me that was just it was incredible. And then I'm like well how are they doing that. And I just needed to know I needed to know how it was done. [34.2]

Donny: And when I went to my first meeting I'm trying to remember what they were turning and what they were doing but I just knew I was enamored right then I went ahead and paid my dues I joined the club. The first visit I went and they gave away free wood.

Donny: So a lot of clubs what they do to help support the club is they will bring in wood pieces and they'll have it cut up for like bowl blanks and things and they'll auction it off. Well at this club we give away wood.

Donny: So we have such an abundance of so many different types of wood. We bring in a big trailer load of wood and we usually just give it away. Well I didn't even have a lathe yet and I'm just loading up. And it was it was crazy. I said you know I got to I've got to have this I've got to do something with this.

Donny: [00:14:00] And I'll be honest I remember now exactly what turned me on to turning I was a member of a of a wood working forum or a basically just a do-all forum of handy people you know just would working in metalworking and all that.

Donny: And I entered a giveaway and I won a giveaway for a Nova Chuck for a late.

Donny: Well I didn't have a lathe.

Donny: So that's what started me off was I said OK I'm got to Nova Chuck I need to find a lathe.

Donny: So I did a little bit of research. Very little people kept telling me Well you know get as big a lay that you can get get the biggest you can afford. And remember that the lathe is going to be the cheapest part of the whole thing. You have all these other tools and all this other stuff.

Donny: And I think I had around 500 bucks to spend on a lathe. So I went a head and bought a Nova Comet 2 mini lathe. And when that thing came in and I just I just I just kept turning stuff. [57.3]

Donny: I mean I would max everything out with bowls and vases and you know of course they weren't lieng and you know you needed these tools and then you needed things to sharpen the tools and then.

Donny: It was just it was just this crazy whirlwind.. and my wife's looking at me like, "What is all this stuff you're doing"?

Donny: And you know and every time we have a meeting and if there's wood left over well I'm not going to let it go to the landfill because that's usually what's going to happen.

Donny: It gets brought to my house and gets dropped off. So now at this point I have a lot of wood here.

Donny: And when I say a lot of wood I'm not exaggerating. I mean I have pecan, I have magnolia, I have Camphor, River Birch, Sweet Gum Sycamore, Cypress, Maple, <aple data-preserve-html-node="true" Walnut.

Donny: It's just it's incredible. I have these piles of lumber. So thank goodness someone in the club has a friend that bought a brand new saw mill and he wants to show it to us and kind of do like a show and tell kind of thing.

Donny: I've kind of convinced them hey come show and tell it at my house which is right down the street from where the club meets and you can cut me some six inch slabs which is perfect for bowl blanks.

Brandon: Yeah.

Donny: And you know I'll be I'll be happy cause all of it will be slabbed up in this guy will be able to show everybody his new toy.

Brandon: That's awesome.

Donny: Yeh it's crazy.

Brandon: Yeah. I was built and a.. I think it was like a chess set and I really wanted to make like a cool... like a bigger king or queen. And I really need to get a lathe to do that. I was trying to talk my wife into it and you know it's like a project for her or her brother. I was like, he would love this.

Brandon: And so I got one the cheap like Harbor Freight. Like you're saying like it's you put it on there... it was like magic. 10 seconds later you got something circle like it's round. And your like what just happened? It's so cool.

Donny: It is man, it is just this magical thing and I mean like I said I can go out and now I've upgraded I have a bigger lathe so I can turn you know 18 inch bowls now. And you know I was thinking the other day man if I just had just a little bit bigger lathe just a little bit bigger.

Donny: So and I don't even dare tell my wife that I that.. I that I'm wanting a 20 inch lathe I'm not even going to you know.

Donny: And then I said 20 but then I was looking at some lathes last night and I'm like oh wow Laguna has got a 24 lathe.... and I said OK.

Donny: I need to nip this in the bud right now. But so I have a bigger lathe and it's a lot more powerful and you could just do so much more stuff with it.

But yeah the lay this is such a magical magical tool. It really is.

Brandon: Yeah. Now do you find yourself now mostly sticking with turning. Or are you also doing furniture and other stuff on the side too.

Donny: It's all mainly been turning and recently I've I've started making a lot of things like you would get at my craft show type stuff because I actually plan on doing my first craft show November the 14th.

Donny: I've always done things like cutting boards and things like that. I've I've sold cutting boards all over Seattle California. I'll do a lot of pens. I've had a lot of pins. I've shipped several to Canada and just all over the country so. But as far as furniture I definitely want to get into the furniture type of thing.

Donny: And it's almost just a matter of space right now. I've done a few outdoor projects some swings and things like that. Like a porch swing type situation.

Donny: But it's almost just a matter of space right now. As far as being able to do furniture. You know what I'm saying. Yeah.

Donny: So that's what's really really stopped me more than anything because we're kind of that transition. I built the house that we're in right now back in ...about six years ago.

Donny: And I've been trying for the past six years to decide on how big of a shop do I want to build it the house is on a really good location. But I also want to do some teaching and I want to have people come in and do be able to learn lathe stuff and also regular furniture making or even just simple basic use of tool type things.

Donny: So I'm trying to decide if if I want to build my shop here if I want to build a shop at a different location. It's always just that logistics type thing. I'm in a good location. I have a nice chunk of land where people can stay at hotels if they want to come in from out of town to do classes..have guest presenters.

Donny: That's that's my overall.. you know the big plan.

Donny: But as of right now I basically closed in some of our back porch. Now when I say I closed and some of our back porch I mean I closed down a 15 by 15 area so it's a very big back porch. I mean there's still you know I've only used a little bit of the porch but I noticed I wanted to start building some some bigger things and table stuff like that. I'm like man I just don't have the space.

Donny: Now I have been I have been working on laminated coasters and cutting boards. I've turned a lot of pins for this craft show coming up. I've done some cool clipboards.

Donny: Lot of ideas that I got from David Picciuto's channel. And David actually has a playlist where you can go through and he basically shows you some of the best and best selling items for like craft show things you know things people can go by and go oh $20 $30 40..oh yeah cool perfect.

Donny: I mean I even noticed recently I wanted to build some of these child growth rollers. You know that that kind of like out of a one by eight six foot tall.

Donny: I mean even just that piece of lumber is is cumbersome in a 15 by 15 area trying to move it around.

Donny: You know you would never think about it because I have all these tools in my shop.

Donny: I have a full size Rigid Table saw. I have my Jet lathe. I have this big 17 inch bandsaw. I have a big drill, a planer, a joiner and in it. You know it gets everything has to be on wheels and it's just. It gets a little frustrating. It gets a little tough but I do.

Donny: Yes to answer your initial question. I do want to get into more furniture stuff.

Donny: But turning There's always going to be my thing as far as I can tell right now.

Brandon: Gotcha. So going back to just the turning piece is there's folks that are listening and I'm sure you've got this question before, and they're just want me get into kind of the basics of turning like how would you... what's kind of like that little almost like a little piece in the training that you really get them addicted to to go like these are a certain project you'd recommend. Or if you just buy this way and these tools get rock and rolling. Like how would you get folks kind of into turning.

Donny: I go down to like Home Depot or Lowes and I buy it.. believe it or not buy a single two by four and I bring that two by four back and I cut the two by four and half. And then I cut it into eight inch pieces and believe it or not I take those eight inch pieces and I put those on my lathe then it's kind of almost like a warm up session everyday.

Donny: [00:22:50] Because when you're turning there are only a couple of different moves that you do. You're either making a bead, you're making a cove. Everything is basically beads and coves. So as you're doing the outside of a bowl you're basically making a big bead as you're doing the inside of a bowl you're kind of doing a Kove if you're making a chess piece for instance. And those little finial look in pieces everything is basically beads and coves.

Donny: So my point is is this you don't have to have a $20 blank of wood to be able to start turning. You don't have to have a $7000 lathe to start turning. [42.1] I know many people who are very very good turners that have started out with either the mini Harbor Freight or the bigger Harbor Freight with a 25 percent coupon and they do you can get away for a couple hundred bucks.

Donny: Now the most important part to me... getting the wood to spend is not really the big issue because like I said you can buy Craigslist you can get a good lathe. You can get a decent lathe. It doesn't even have to be a decent lathe.

Donny: Use that lathe for six months and if you feel like you have the financial possibilities to upgrade and do something find a maker in your area make them pay 50 bucks for the lathe from you and pass it on to somebody.

Donny: The biggest part of turning that I think people never understand is the tools. Now with the recent insurgence of carbide tools it's turned a lot of people into turners because now you can just take at tool and basically shove it into the piece of wood and form it around a little bit.

Donny: I do like carbide tools. They do have their place but I'm more of a traditional tool guy. When I first bought my lathe the first thing I did was ordered the three combo set from easy wood tools of carbide tools.

Donny: Had no clue what I was doing and had no idea what was going on but I was able to make some shapes I was able to cut some stuff. What that did not do for me was not teach me the fundamentals of true.. not true turning.

Donny: But the fundamentals of use in a bowl gouge or a spindle gouge. So I recommend...like I said it's easy to buy something to get the wood spinning. But as far as using cutting tool absolutely hands down don't buy the harbor freight cutting and old as I can. Those are the worst tools on the planet.

Donny: You can go to several retailers and buy some decent tools. Don't buy a set because you're going to buy a set of turning tools that you have no idea about.

Donny: You need a decent little bow gouge a decent little spindle gouge and maybe a parting tool with those few things you can you can turn some mazing stuff and.

Donny: The reason I like the traditional tools is because it gets your body into it it gets it gets everything that you have into that turn because you're move in and you're finessing the tool and you're getting it to work with a carbide tool it's hard to explain but you of just stick the carbide tool up there and you kind of just move it back and forth and it just chops the wood away and it just really kind of to me there's almost no life to it.

Donny: There are plenty people who have made some amazing stuff with carbide tools. I don't want to sound like I'm anti carbide tool because I do own several carbide tools but they all have their place.

Donny: But also remember that tools are going to be a little expensive and then depending on the tools that you get... you have to have a way to sharpen them.

Donny: So everybody talks about you know just go out and get your lathe and then a few tools and you'll be good to go and get started.

Donny: But there are honestly and I don't because I don't want people to be misled because if you get at tool and a lathe and you start turning and you don't know how to use the tool and the tools are not sharp. You're going to give up turning and in a heartbeat because it's going to be one of the most frustrating things you've ever done.

Donny: But if you have just a little bit of instruction by some really good YouTube videos and you have a very sharp tool you're going to find it really really enjoyable.

Donny: You can get a cut off of a really good sharp tool where you can start at you know 280 grand sandpaper.

Brandon: Yeah.

Brandon: If you're if you get good enough. So remember that a cheap lathe is fine. It's not going to be the best when it comes to things like the tool rest and things like that. That's not going to be the most precisely ground or or machined parts but they're OK.

Brandon: it'll give you a future appreciation when you do buy a high quality product. But the tools and things like that are something that you really need to pay attention to. You have to have a way to sharpen them and take care of them. So that's what I would say you can realistically for you know a few hundred bucks. Be able to start turning with a Harbor Freight lathe than some pretty decent tools you don't have to have all these chucks and jaws and you can turn a bowl without a chuck.

Brandon: I mean Mike Walt just recently did have a couple of videos on on how to turn a ball without a chuck.

Brandon: Because people think oh I have to have this I have to have that. You know because I watched Donny's video and he's got a Nova Infinity Chuck with removable jaws.

Brandon: No you don't have to have all that.

Brandon: It's because I'm a tool guy. Yeah. And I love tools and I love buying new stuff that I have a lot of the things that I have.

Yeah. I'll have to check that out because I always thought I needed some type of special chuck. Because I wanted to do all I'm like well I got to have support from both ends needed to figure out a way... So you just basically drill the blank in from the backside?

Donny: Yeah he could use a you can use a you can actually use you can go in between two centers and actually turn a ball.

Brandon: Oh wow. OK.

Donny: So but you basically do as you turn the outside of the bowl and then when you flip it around the inside you've still got tailstock and face support. You can use a faceplate that comes with every single eighth every lathe comes with a faceplate.

Donny: So you can screw the faceplate on hollow the bowl out do whatever you want to do flip the bowl over use tailstock support and then just jam Chuck it up inside of the bowl and finish the outside of the bowl.

Brandon: Yeah.

Donny: I mean it's that simple. I mean it honestly is that simple. You don't. Now is it easier to use a chuck in a Vacuum Chuck and all.

Donny: Well of course it is.

Brandon: Yeah.

Donny: But I've been turning now for close to three years and I'm just putting together a vacuum Chuck system. And it's it's the best thing in the world. I'm not going to lie to you.

Donny: You know you put this bowl up there you line it up and you turn the vacuum Chuck on and it's magic it just you can clean the bottom of the bowl off and it's just incredible. I mean it is it's really nice.

Brandon: That's great. Weel I kind of get into your podcast. The Green Woodworker Podcast. Make sure if you guys have not checked out there's a link in the show notes. But how did you kind of start that and then have there been any guests that really stood out to you maybe some lessons you've learned there were kind of like ah-ha moments for you along the way.

Donny: Yeah you know the podcast I learned first of all how to set up and do the podcast from Pat Flynn.

Donny: Pat Flynn has the most incredible information on how to start a podcast out there on the Internet. It's the easiest thing in the world to do but yet I let it become the hardest thing in the world to do for years.

Brandon: Yeh.

Donny: And it's just something I did to myself. It's just one of those things.

Donny: You know when I interviewed Matt Cremona.. this guy filmed and videoed for five years before he uploaded a video.

Brandon: Did he really? That's crazy.

Donny: And it's incredible to even think that how many more Matt Cremona's out there that have done things like that that just you know that we need in our lives.

Donny: What if Matt would have said I just can't do it. I just can't do it. I don't. I mean honestly I don't know where I would be. I mean it's so so.

Donny: I made things harder than what I did and what I had to do. My guests have all just been incredible. It is absolutely it is absolutely a blessing because I haven't yet been turned down from anyone that I've ask in the community.

Donny: I try to do a mix of I know it's called the Green Woodworker Podcast and I kind of kick myself in the butt sometimes because I don't want to be. I don't want it to be labeled as only woodworker's.

Donny: I want it to be more as I'm the Green-Wood worker and I'm looking for help.

Brandon: Yeah.

Donny: And I know that many people are out there looking for help like like I am and I want to give these people a voice. Because I know that everybody out there just may not want to contact somebody. They may look at a Mark Spagnola and go I can't contact this guy. He doesn't know who I am. I'm that guy. I'm the guy to contact Mark. I'm the guy to contact Nick Offerman. I've I've sent requests for people like Jessie James.

Donny: I will have him on my oh my podcast one day.

Brandon: That's awesome.

Donny: I have contacted some really big name people because I want to be able to get the answers for all my internet friends and followers out there to help them along.

Donny: That's why I'm not prejudiced to the people that I have on my show. Meaning you don't have to have a number of followers or subscribers. You don't have to be making a certain amount of money. You don't even have to be a YouTuber or you don't even have to be on Facebook or Instagram.

Donny: I talked to people who are out there making a difference changing people's lives by sharing their information giving tips and tricks to people. Now you have to take in mind most of those people obviously are on some social media.

Donny: But I talk to people who are in the real world doing businesses. I've got several lined up where there are actual true cabinet shop guys that run cabinet shops and do this day in and day out 12 15 hours a day. That are going to sit down with me and say OK here's the real deal.

Donny: This is exactly what it takes to be a cabinet shop owner if this is what you want to do. And that's that's what I get passionate about. That's what I want to share.

Brandon: That's cool.

Donny: Now I do have to admit. Like I said all my podcasts.. all the interviews have just been incredible. I love each and every one of my guests but the most recent Nick. Ginger wood works. This guy was so passionate and is so passionate. It's incredible. It's the biggest response I've had. His story his his inspiration. This guy is just he's fired up and he is excited.

Donny: So he definitely stands out because Rob is just a really good guy he's carrying on a giving guy and man his response the response to his podcast recently has just been incredible.

Donny: Now have I had bigger numbers on other people. Sure. But the response from the community with inbox things and stuff like that has just been has been phenomenal. But I am so thankful for for all. Like I said I think I'm on the episode coming out this week will be number 29 and all 29 of my guests so far have just been exceptional and the cool part about this podcast is is I get my own questions answered.

Donny: So if I'm in a predicament or if I'm in the middle of something and I'm trying to figure things out or if I'm wanted to do something well I'll just pick somebody in the podcast that can answer my questions.

Brandon: Yeah.

Donny: And I'll ask my questions and kind of I know it's a little self self-serving but you know hey it. But the funny thing is is somehow no matter what I ask there's always a handful of people out there that go man I really wanted to know that information also.

Donny: You know it's crazy.

Brandon: I was kind of into the last segments so to speak. I've been asking everybody basically two types of questions around the name make or break. And so the make question is of all of your projects isn't to be something you put on YouTube or even on Instagram. Is there one that really stands out to you as your favorite for whatever reason?

Donny: Yeah I made a I made a gift box a prayer box for my wife. And it's made out of cebela. I'm trying to remember what else I used on and I think I used another word for the handle. And this and that but it was just it meant so much making that box the entire time because my wife is just.. I've been married for 20 years to this woman and she has just been the backbone of the entire thing.

Donny: I have no idea on this earth how she has put up with me for all these years. And it's that's just the honest truth. But as I was making this thing I even I even found a guy that I really loved his music. He's an he's an accomplished musician that does guitar work for a lot of movies and things and I ask him could I use one of his songs. And I did it in the video. And it was just incredible to me. I'm not sure the video has the highest of my views or meaning but it just worked out so perfect and as I was making this thing I could listen to that to that track in my head as I milling the board and things.

Donny: It was just one of those perfect moments I didn't have a single glitch the entire time on this project.

Donny: Every every joint fit correctly the lid went perfect no tear outs no nothing and it was just it was just a perfect project. I really enjoy it and I even go back and watch the video and kind of just go yeah man that was that was a good one.

Brandon: Well I guess that those mistakes and those joints not working. That's probably more common in the things that you're working on. If you're anything like me. So on the break questions things. Is there a moment where something really went wrong that really stands out but also is there kind of a lesson that you learned because of it.

Donny: Yeah for sure. The one thing you'll absolutely notice about my videos and let me say real quick I've kind of been on a hiatus on my videos. I got injured at the beginning of the year and I've gone I've gone through a through a few surgeries and things on my leg. They're one to do surgery again. I'm kind of weighing that option but have no fear everyone. I promise I will be back making videos again.

Donny: I did weekly videos for almost 18 months and I promise I will be back with with weekly videos. So with that said if you've watched any of my videos you'll notice that any mistakes that I make or anything that happens I make sure that I show those mistakes and I show how I've overcome those mistakes.

Donny: In the video one thing that I one thing I have a video it's called I'm trying to remember the exact title. It's called the Cedar Bowl and then it's like ... that didn't make it. And Cedar is a very finicky wood and people have told me this I've watched videos where people have said be careful wood cedar be careful with cedar. So I made the cedar Bowl and I had this big plan that I was going to give this bowl to a really good friend of mine. And boy I just I just did not heed any of the warnings warnings like don't turn cedar real fast because it will try and come apart. Don't cut too deep when turning cedar because it will come apart and crack.

Donny: I've got this thing turned. Hammered wide open getting in there with a big bowl gouge and lo and behold this thing came apart and when it came apart man it scared the crap out of me. I'm not going to lie Thank goodness. I of course always wear my shield always wear all my protection and when this thing slung off and it went all over the place it caught my arm cut me a little bit on my arm.

Donny: And I videoed the whole thing it's all right there on on video and you know it man I can't believe this did this. And I was so aggravated and so upset that it broke because I wanted to give this thing to my friend. I realized as I was sitting down I was telling my wife about it.

Donny: I'm thinking you know this was my fault because I did not heed the warnings. I did not. I did not. I took for granted that I thought I knew what I was doing more than the people before me that said hey don't turn Ceder real fast don't don't take a big cut take fine cuts and make sure that it's supported well and make sure that the tenon can break off of it.

Donny: And and that's I think at the beginning when I first started turning it I broke in and off I flipped it back around put another tenon on it and then oh it was just it was I just kept pushing and kept pushing because I'm so hard headed.

Donny: From that moment on I had learned that I need to listen to people that kind of know a little bit more about me. That's the good thing about people making mistakes before you is if you just kind of look around and see the mistakes they make well it'll save you a whole bunch of trouble and of course this just stems from my whole childhood so hard headed and didn't want to listen.

Donny: It was kind of people you know tell me all the time like well I can never make videos like this person or do what this person does and I'm like. So which video did you watch there. Oh I watched the one they did last week and I'm like go watch the video they did four years ago.

Donny: Go watch the project they made five years ago go see what they did 10 years ago.

Donny: Pay attention to what they do take what they say as advice and kind of hear a little bit.

Donny: That's what I try and do to this day is pay a little more attention to people that know so much more than me because I mean there are so many people that know so much more about woodturning than I do. So I think that's what I got from that. Yep.

Donny: The cedar bowl that didn't make it.... and that thing has some sharp edge to a man.

Brandon: We had Irma kind of come through Georgia and the winds. And so we had a couple cedar trees not into our backyards and I was cutting it up and I can make some this. Well it may not be turning a bowl out of soundalikes.

Donny: I saw you I saw you also on your Instagram that you were cutting it up and you were doing something at the time and I was looking at the feed going man don't do that like that or I can't remember what it was. But then when you showed you were cutting it up. I'm trying to remember everything was fine. And I said well you know. But yes cedar cedar get your man you've got to you've got to watch cedar. It'll light up brother I promise.

Brandon: Yeah. Well thank you so much for being with me and chat with me. For folks that are listening in places that you would send as far as your podcast and YouTube channel.

Donny: Yeah just head on over to the thegreenwoodworkerpodcast.com.That's where most of the things are going on right now. You can find me on ah man you can find everywhere on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter. tgwp.com is is a lot easier. Well it's tgwpodcast.com

Donny: I have all of them I have all the all the sayings of it I wanted to make it easy for everybody to get there. I'm always around and if anybody ever has any any questions suggestions people they'd like to see anything like that. Hey man throw me a message whether it's my Donny Carter or Instagram or the podcast Instagram or any way you want to send me a message. I'm happy to talk to you guys and help out any way that I can cash in.

Brandon: Well thank you so much for doing it now. It's a blast chatting. Great to hear your stories and especially your vision for your future. Sounds so cool and teaching. So that's a fun story to watch.

Donny: Brandon thank you so much brother I wish you. I wish you great success. Man I like this little podcast this is it's going to be some good stuff. I know you've had some some awesome guests so far and thank you so much for allowing me to be one of the first ones out there.

Brandon: Thank you.

Brandon Cullum